Hufford Y-DNA

R-L44 and R-L48

Those are the two paternal haplogroups that I’ve seen.

Every man got his paternal haplogroup (his Y-haplogroup) from his father, who got it from his father, who got it from his father, who got it from his father, and so on. Over many generations, there can be small, modest mutations/variations, but all straight-line male descendants of a man are going to have the same Y-haplogroup — or something pretty darned close to the same.

Folks who do autosomal DNA testing with the company 23andMe get a bonus: They learn their paternal and maternal haplogroups. Whoopie! Only a few days ago did I realize that fact means there is more data to mine. 🙂 I found Y-DNA information for three men who are known paper-trail descendants of Casper Hoffert (1762-1825), son of the immigrant Christian (1716-1788):
One descends from Andrew Hufford (1827-1881), grandson of Casper: R-L44
One descends from Emanual Hufford (1831-1913), grandson of Casper: R-L48
One descends from Henry Hufford (1836-1908), grandson of Casper: R-L48

A fourth man carries the HUFFORD surname and shares plenty of autosomal DNA with those three men and with other identified Hufford descendants; however, I do not know who he is, and he does not respond to my queries. But the fact that he shares autosomal DNA with known Hufford descendants and carries the Hufford surname makes clear that he’s a Hufford descendant. His Y-haplogroup: R-L44

Because of that R-L44 Y-haplogroup, three days ago I sent an email to a man with a last name very different from HUFFORD: “I don’t know who your biologicial father is, but I can tell that your biological paternal grandfather was Clarence Hufford.”

The man was carrying that Hufford Y-DNA, and he shared enough autosomal DNA with two known grandchildren of Clarence Hufford that it was clear he was their first-cousin. That meant that Clarence had to be his grandfather also, and that he had to be the son of one of Clarence’s sons. Within 12 hours, the man had enough information to know which of those sons of Clarence was his biological father. Because there are living people involved, I’ll share no more, other than to say that the newly found Hufford descendant is one to be proud of: Served as a U.S. Marine, and has been a fireman for 25 years. He descends from Casper’s son Michael William Hufford, Sr. (1804-1875).

Thus, we have four known descendants of Casper. Two are R-L44; two are R-L48. And we have another obvious Hufford descendant who is R-L44, but I do not know his descent.

If any straight-line male Hufford descendant has done a Y-DNA test, I’d love to hear from you.

My knowledge of Y-DNA haplogroups is limited. There is information of interest here:
2019 Haplogroup R Tree
That is found at ISOGG’s page on the Y-DNA haplogroup treeic Genealogy. (ISOGG is International Society of Genetic Genealogy.)

This graphic is a screen shot from that page, showing the differences between R-L44 and R-L48:

12 thoughts on “Hufford Y-DNA

  1. Fascinating story. I’m a straight-line male Hufford descendant and am now curious abut my Y-DNA!

    • Your John Wesley HUFFORD’s findagrave page is here:
      He was son of Hezekiah HUFFORD (1821-1854), who was son of John Wesley HUFFORD (1798-1880), who was son of John HOFFART and Elizabeth STIHLI.
      John HOFFART was son of Christian HOFFARTH and Elizabeth KEIM.
      Elizabeth STIHLI was daughter of Christoph STIEHL and Catherine WINE.

      John HOFFART’s brother was Casper HOFFERT (1762-1825).
      Elizabeth STIHLI’s sister was Catharine STIHLI (1767-1840).
      John’s brother Casper married Elizabeth’s sister Catharine, and Casper and Catharine had 13 children. All 13 of their children had children, and (so far as I know), none of those 13 lines has dead-ended yet.

      Because Casper and Catharine’s descendants are most heavily represented in the 1909 HUFFORD FAMILY HISTORY, it is the lines of their descendants that have been worked the most. And, likely because of that, many of their descendants have done autosomal DNA testing.

      To date, I have seen no DNA match for a descendant of your John Wesley HUFFORD. However, that alone means nothing. Why? Because a living descendant of John Wesley HUFFORD likely would be about 7th cousin to me, and a cousin so distant is unlikely to show any autosomal DNA match.

      HOWEVER, a daughter of Olive Martha FRANKLIN (1935-2000) has done autosomal testing (at ancestry). Olive was daughter of Lena Mildred DELKER (1906-1984), who was daughter of George C. DELKER (1886-1961), who was son of Charles Wesley DELKER (1866-1946), who was son of Margaret E. HUFFORD (1845-1883), who was daughter of Hezekiah HUFFORD (1821-1854) (your John Wesley HUFFORD’s father).

      Olive Martha FRANKLIN’s daughter has DNA shares with three people who are 3rd cousins to me. All three descend from James Burton HOOKER, son of Elizabeth HUFFORD (1851-1929), who was a great-granddaughter of Casper HOFFERT and Catharine STIHLI. The three descend from three different children of James Burton HOOKER. Amounts shared: 14 cM, 8 cM, and 8 cM.

      In other words, assuming your line is correct as you know it, it is likely that you would find DNA matches with HUFFORD descendants if you test at ancestry. You may find them elsewhere also, but ancestry has the biggest database.

      If you test at 23andMe, in addition to finding autosomal DNA matches, you also would get information about your Y haplogroup, at no additional cost.

      I do NOT recommend familyTreeDNA’s Y-DNA test. It is costly and seldom worth the cost. The test does not include autosomal testing. At familyTreeDNA, that is a separate test, with one more cost. And Y-DNA testing alone does not provide much worthwhile information. With autosomal DNA testing, you can determine whether you share with expected paternal relatives, which will tell you if your paternal line is correct. My experience with Y-DNA testing is that it is not worth the bang for the buck. If you are a male with no info on your paternal side, yes, I recommend Y-DNA testing. Otherwise, my first suggestion always is autosomal testing. Test at ancestry if you want the biggest database; test at 23andMe if you’re a male and want that extra info about your Y-haplogroup. Do autosomal DNA testing at all three if you want to fish in all of the ponds for the best luck. But the Y-DNA testing just is not often worth the cost.

      That said, if you do Y-DNA testing and can verify your HUFFORD connection via autosomal DNA matches, I’d be interested in learning what info you learn. Also, if you do a Y-DNA test, do it to at least 37 markers. Anything less is a waste. Better yet, go for a 67-marker test.

      P.S.: Notice that modern-day documentary genealogical research as paired with DNA genealogy is not for the dim-witted. 😉

  2. Hi my name is Jeff Humiston in 2018 I did 23and me and my paternal group is R-L44 I was adopted in 1970 in Fayetteville north Carolina I hope I’m the one your looking for, because I’m looking too my number is 719-922-0983 I hope I hear from someone soon today is 2/12/20 Thank you so much for your time

    • Y-DNA alone does not tell you much. The greater question is whether you share autosomal DNA with identified HUFFORD descendants. If you do not share autosomal DNA with any identified HUFFORD descendants, there’s no reason to guess that you are a HUFFORD descendant with no more info than that Y-DNA.

      Recommendation to any adoptee-in-search is to do autosomal tests with all three major testing companies: 23andMe, ancestry, and familyTreeDNA. Then, download your raw data and upload it at both gedMatch and MyHeritage. The name of the game is autosomal DNA — not Y-DNA.

      Best company is ancestry[dot]com, because they have the largest database and because so many test-takers also have trees. However, to see those trees, you must pay a monthly subscription. For the budget conscious, you can buy a month only every few months; then mine all of the data that you can mine.

      Good luck!

      • Thank you , I will definitely go to ancestry for more information about me. I appreciate your quick response and help

    • Jeff, I see that you replied below on 29-Nov-2020: “I found my birth father his name is Tommy E. Hufford son of Byron Hufford I still have not yet found my mother but that may be a little harder.”

      I do not have in my database a “Tommy E. HUFFORD” who is the son of a “Byron HUFFORD.” I’d love to get you in my database and provide you more info on your HUFFORD line, if you belong on this tree. However, without more info, I can’t place you. … But the fact that your paternal haplogroup is R-L44 and that your biological father’s surname is HUFFORD surely argues strongly for you belong on this tree. … I’ll try to figure out how.

    • BINGO! We’ve figured out what Jeff’s line is: His paternal grandfather was Byron Orland HUFFORD, born 1919 in Milford, Illinois, and died 1995 in Rossville, Illinois. Here is Byron Hufford’s findagrave page:

      Byron was son of Floyd E. HUFFORD (1892-1981), who was the son of Samuel Benjamin HUFFORD (1864-1949), who was the son of Andrew HUFFORD (1827-1881) and Sarah Catharine CRIPE (1833-1907).

      Andrew was son of Abraham (1788-1859), who was the son of Casper (1762-1825), who was the son of Christian HOFFARTH (1716-1788).

      Jeff and I are 4th cousins, with both of us descending from Andrew Hufford and Sarah Catharine Cripe. And Jeff’s autosomal DNA and his paternal haplogroup prove that line for him.

      • Hi, I found my birth father his name is Tommy E. Hufford son of Byron Hufford I still have not yet found my mother but that may be a little harder I hope that helps you if any other questions feel free to contact me , thank you

  3. My number is R-L44.
    I do not know my father’s name and have never meant him or his family. I was born in November of 1963. My mother is no longer alive. The only thing she told me was that my father’s first name was Jim, and he was a Sheriff in Memphis Tennessee. I do not know if this is correct or not. She refused to tell me more. She was living and working in Memphis until she became pregnant with me. She just gave me the last name Miller from her family.
    I am interested in finding anything out about my paternal heritage.

    • Richard,
      Y-DNA alone will not tell you who your father is. I.e., the fact that your Y-DNA is R-L44 does not mean that you are a HUFFORD descendant. Indeed, without other evidence, there’s no reason to think that it’s even likely.

      Before you began your quest, you needed advice from a competent genealogist: Generally, a Y-DNA test is a waste of time for someone hunting for his unknown biological father.

      Here is what you should do:
      (1st) Do an autosomal DNA test at ancestryDOTcom.
      (2nd) Download your raw data after it comes in, and upload it (for free!) at GEDmatch.
      (3rd) Upload your raw data (for free!) at MyHeritage.
      (4th) Upload your raw data (for free!) at familyTreeDNA.
      (5th) Do an autosomal DNA test at 23andMe.

      I.e., you will pay for two autosomal DNA tests (ancestryDOTcom, and 23andMe), but you will be able to fish in five ponds. The biggest and most important pond to be fishing in is ancestryDOTcom. I.e., if money is tight for you, start with just the ancestryDOTcom test.

      If, after your DNA test results come in at ancestryDOTcom, you do a “surname search” for HUFFORD on the trees of your DNA matches and you see some matches, get back with me, and we’ll talk:

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